Post in Group Members Page
For edem and dowire, these spaces are about "public life." Listing names - all names - is an important virtue. With public groups people always have choice not to join to remain invisible. Trust is built by treating all members equal and not institutionalizing different rights for members. I do think it would be good for group admins to have a choice about when to disclose both the member names list and member profiles in GS.
Steve - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://stevenclift.com Sent via mobile: +1 612 203 5181 > ------- Original Message ------- > From: "Michael JasonSmith" <email obscured>> > To: <email obscured> > Sent: 9/30/07, 8:42:01 PM > Subject: [groupserver development] Group Members Page > > This post carries on from the posts by Steve and Richard in the > “Validating feeds from searches, post by/about person, Latest posts” topic > http://groupserver.org/r/post/3zTY3txKr4FyeF22vYurZT > http://groupserver.org/r/post/E7MWs12qK6WyZdYkqzPzf > where they discuss the Group Members page. > > There are two basic principals that govern the members page: > 1. Group members should be able to “lurk”, and > 2. Group members should be able know who will read the posts. > To be able to lurk, your name should never be mentioned, which is in > conflict with the second principal. In addition to the above requirements, > the main use of the members page is to answer the question “who is in this > group”. We suspect the user will ask this question as part of the > evaluation of a group, before joining. > > To support these requirements we have devised the following rules for the > default GroupServer discussion and announcement groups. > > * In secret, private, and public groups, group members can view the > group members page. All members of the group are visible to all the > other members. Where appropriate, the number of posts made by each > member is shown, along with a link to the appropriate search for that > user in the group. For example, all posts by me in GroupServer > Development > http://groupserver.org/s/?g=development&a=michaeljasonsmith&t=0&p=1 > > * In secret and private groups, the group members page is not visible to > anonymous (logged out) users. > > * In public groups that are viewed by logged out users, only the users > who have posted are shown on the group members page. The posting > statics are shown, as well as the link to the appropriate for that user > in the group. > > In the generic case, the visibility of the group members page will be > based on the visiblity of the messages area. > > Alice and I are working at rewriting the back-end code that is used to > generate the Web pages for a group. This is the “Creation of group-classes, > so the templates contain no logic” item in the roadmap > http://groupserver.org/groupserver/roadmap/ > We are working from the simple tasks — encoding the rules for joining and > leaving a group — towards the more complex, such as posting. Alice and I > naïvely asked Dan what the rules for the members page. It turns out that > the rules are (or should be) far far far more complex that you would > imagine at first! > > > ----------------------------------------- > Full text of this topic in GroupServer Development: > http://groupserver.org/r/topic/69gdf3X7H3Fn9Hu8IcrQtu > > To leave GroupServer Development, email > <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe > > GroupServer Development is powered by > OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net > >
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